Making It Up 79 —

A planetary health diet and creating while clean


On Making It Up 079 Eugene and Charis talk about the newly proposed “flexitarian” diet configured by 37 scientists to not only be healthy for humans, but to take care of our planet. They also discuss what it looks like to be creative while clean as described by nine musicians interviewed by GQ regarding all aspects of their journey through substance abuse into sobriety.



00:16:22 Flexitarian diet

00:33:42 Creating while clean