On Making It Up 125, Charis and Eugene discuss the role of small indie music venues in supporting emerging musicians and the continual growth of the music industry. They also talk about a new model of media star, where media is fragmenting further and the individuals people gravitate towards are increasingly varied. This leads into a conversation about the “passion economy” as defined by Li Jin.

Timestamps

00:04:38 Indie music venues

00:26:46 Passion economy

Links

• New York Times: Small Clubs Are Where Rock History Is Made. How Many Will Survive? by Ben Sisario
• New York Times: The New Model Media Star Is Famous Only to You by Ben Smith
• Substack: How the Passion Economy will disrupt media, education, and countless other industries by Li Jin