Making It Up 113 —

Record number of new podcasts in 2019 and the future of fashion PR


On Making It Up 113, Charis and Eugene discuss what it means for podcasting that there were a record number of new podcasts launched in 2019. They also talk about Brian Phillips deciding to close his art and fashion public relations company Black Frame and the shift in fashion public relations as a whole.



00:04:34 New podcasts

00:19:57 Fashion PR